
The Interview
The Interview
Shabana Mahmood, British Home Secretary: Do not make that boat crossing
1 December 2025
24 minutes
Available for over a year
Nick Robinson speaks to Shabana Mahmood, British Home Secretary, about her far-reaching proposals to shake up the UK immigration system, designed to make asylum seekers think twice before attempting to enter the country illegally.
She also shares her own experience of racism as the daughter of Pakistani immigrants, and her belief that ensuring secure borders is the best way to combat this.
Under her plans, refugee status will be made temporary, with frequent reviews, meaning people could be returned to their home country if it is deemed safe. Refugees will also need to live in the UK for 20 years before they can apply to stay permanently, a signifcant increase on the current five years. The removal of failed asylum seekers will be speeded up, and Shabana Mahmood is revoking the legal duty to provide them with support such as housing and money.
Presenter: Nick Robinson
Producer: Lucy Sheppard and Daniel Kraemer
Editor: Justine Lang
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(Image: Shabana Mahmood. Credit: Wiktor Szymanowicz/Getty Images)




